Tired of stagnation in your career and hoping and praying that one day, some day your boss will realise what an asset you are? Or worse even, completely given up on your career and want to find joy elsewhere?
Then this episode is for you.
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Hi, I'm Sudeshna from The Abundance Psyche, and you are listening to the Not-so-Corporate podcast. Here we talk about all of the not-so-corporate things that we corporate entrepreneurs do within and outside our work.
And today I have with me, my friend, my colleague, my mentor, Monique Ruff-Bell. Monique, welcome to the show.
Oh, Sudeshna, thank you so much for having me. We are about to have a spicy conversation, I'm so excited,
We are going to have a conversation in the real unboring Money 20/20 way.
Yeah, it'll definitely be unboring, I don't do anything boring. So I'm looking forward to us really getting into the weeds of coaching and mentorship and things like that. So I'm happy to be here.
Monique, I have been a mentee of yours for some time. Now, you have, in fact, been an inspiration for me to talk about all of these things quite openly. I was to be fair, a bit afraid and reluctant of sharing my personal development piece alongside my very, very technical data science journey. So thank you for that. And thank you for agreeing to be on the show. How did you get interested in this space and how did you start coaching and mentoring people?
I think because I strive to be my authentic self, the Monique that I bring to work is the Monique that is around my family, is the Monique that I'm with my friends, it's the same personality.
And it was a journey to kind of get to that because everyone starts hiding bits of themselves or not necessarily being comfortable with sharing their full self. And that to me, that took a lot more energy to hide, because as you can see, I have a little bit of a boisterous personality, and I'm kind of a little bit out there and stuff like that.
So it took more work to keep that bottled up than it was to just be myself. So when I came to the realization, you're going to get all of me and you know, I'm going to be a very hard worker, I'm going to be very impactful with my job. But you're gonna have to deal with a little bit of this boisterous personality. And you know, it didn't stop anything, I just kept going. So I wanted to support other people, men, and women and then becoming more of their authentic selves because I really do feel that that's more of a motivator and helpful to their career growth than it is a hindrance. And so thank you for saying all those wonderful things. You know, I've seen your growth, I'm super happy that you're starting to feel more comfortable. And bringing your authentic self more to work, because it's a good you. And so we should be able to see all of you.
I'm glad you like that. But Monique, the coachee becomes the coach, you are not boisterous. You're not. You are energetic.
I like that description. Okay, I'm energetic. I like that better. That's right, bringing some good energy to the table.
There you go. Tell me a bit more about what are the specific things that you help other mentees with?
Yeah, so I'm all about helping my mentees be more strategic about their career. I think people don't talk enough about that when you get out of school that you just don't let certain things happen to you. Or that you have these expectations that you're going to be like discovered, everyone is going to see this fabulous job that you do and promotions, and money is going to be raining down on you.
And you didn't put in any hard work other than just doing your regular day job and putting work, you weren't very thoughtful and mindful about certain strategic decisions that you need to make to move your career forward. And so that was a big mistake for me. And then one day, I pretty much realized, all of my hard work wasn't doing anything but getting me more work. To be honest. You know, it wasn't this utopia of people noticing how great I was doing and how much I cared and how many hours I was putting in extra in the day to do my job. Because all they saw was the results and great, good job. That's what you get paid for. So that's what you know, I was getting out of it.
And so once I decided that I needed to make certain power moves, build certain relationships, grow certain networks, have certain conversations, putting more stuff out there to the people who could help me move up within my career, that's when it clicked for me. That's when it happened. That's what started things started to move. I knew where I wanted to get to and I started to make decisions that support the goal for me. And when I say goal, it's the end goal for me now, but you know, I have the right to change my mind and have a different end goal eventually.